Is it dangerous to use entheogens to open the third eye...

08-29-2013, 04:27 PM Is it dangerous to use entheogens to open the third eye... Or try to raise Kundalini?.

I have read a lot of stories related with this.

Thanks in advance.  08-30-2013, 09:21 AM 
An entheogen opens up windows,
while Yoga sadhana opens up doors.

Would you pilot an aircraft being a clueless pilot?

Kundalini is not an X-Box game, you have only one life in this world.

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08-30-2013, 08:09 PM Nothing is inherently safe or dangerous. It depends on far too many factors. Factors such as how such a thing is use, the biomechanics of the substance, etc.

Taking anything that alters your brainfunction WILL alter your synaptic paths. Many people report lasting effects after psychedelic trips. People who take a lot of psychedelics maintain even more lasting effects, often permanently having various neuropathways become active when they are off the substance due to them being activated so much while on it. People like to pretend that substances have no lasting effects on the brain, which this would be in total contradiction to how the brain works. Though keep in mind not all of these changes are good. A person can also be permanently scarred by their experiences if the experience is a bad one.

Ultimately it's all about how you use it. Using various herbs and substances in Yoga/Meditation date back centuries and were often used for very specific reasons to accelerate ones progress. It should always be kept in mind that while certain substances can provide incredibly positive lasting changes, they can also give very negative lasting changes, so if you chose to do such a thing, you must approach with ease, and be careful.

This really goes with anything in Yoga. Direct manipulation of ones energy through visualization can itself give really fast results, but sometimes at a cost. Sometimes releasing such energy when a person is not ready for it can cause great psychological and physical harm. I know a number of people who have had awesome premature kundalini rising experiences that brought great gifts, and I know people who have been wrecked by a premature kundalini rising and ended up in a mental hospital for 2 years due to being overwhelmed by the Kundalini energy.

So just be careful, and do not be foolish.

http://ajitupadhyay.tripod.com/meditation/ausadhis.htm

The texts go on to say that through the use of certain herbs it is possible for a partial or fuller Awakening to be brought about; either the Awakening of Ida or Pingala, or the Awakening of Sushumna. In Sanskrit, the method of Awakening through herbs is called Aushadhi and an Awakening thus achieved, can, under the right circumstances and conditions, albeit short term, replicate at least partially the level of a Chalabhinna, an Arhat of the third level of realization with the ability of Iddhavidha, the power of transformation.(see)

It is written as well that the herbs used to awaken this potentiality should be obtained and administered ONLY through the Guru and NOT without a Guru. The reason for such is because there are certain herbs that awaken only Ida and there are others that awaken only Pingala; and there are those that can and do suppress either or both. Aushadhi or the herbal Awakening can be a very quick, albeit risky and unreliable method. It should be done only with one who is a very reliable person, who knows the science of it's use thoroughly, and versed in the arts thereof.

Today, 12:31 AM Originally Posted by panoramix An entheogen opens up windows,
while Yoga sadhana opens up doors.

Would you pilot an aircraft being a clueless pilot?

Kundalini is not an X-Box game, you have only one life in this world.

Wouldn't be that the same? Both reach the same goal-
I know what you mean. I would not. And I am aware that Kundalini is not a game, I take this subject very seriously. Otherwise I wouldn't have made this question.

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Nothing is inherently safe or dangerous. It depends on far too many factors. Factors such as how such a thing is use, the biomechanics of the substance, etc.

Taking anything that alters your brainfunction WILL alter your synaptic paths. Many people report lasting effects after psychedelic trips. People who take a lot of psychedelics maintain even more lasting effects, often permanently having various neuropathways become active when they are off the substance due to them being activated so much while on it. People like to pretend that substances have no lasting effects on the brain, which this would be in total contradiction to how the brain works. Though keep in mind not all of these changes are good. A person can also be permanently scarred by their experiences if the experience is a bad one.

Ultimately it's all about how you use it. Using various herbs and substances in Yoga/Meditation date back centuries and were often used for very specific reasons to accelerate ones progress. It should always be kept in mind that while certain substances can provide incredibly positive lasting changes, they can also give very negative lasting changes, so if you chose to do such a thing, you must approach with ease, and be careful.

This really goes with anything in Yoga. Direct manipulation of ones energy through visualization can itself give really fast results, but sometimes at a cost. Sometimes releasing such energy when a person is not ready for it can cause great psychological and physical harm. I know a number of people who have had awesome premature kundalini rising experiences that brought great gifts, and I know people who have been wrecked by a premature kundalini rising and ended up in a mental hospital for 2 years due to being overwhelmed by the Kundalini energy.

So just be careful, and do not be foolish.

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The texts go on to say that through the use of certain herbs it is possible for a partial or fuller Awakening to be brought about; either the Awakening of Ida or Pingala, or the Awakening of Sushumna. In Sanskrit, the method of Awakening through herbs is called Aushadhi and an Awakening thus achieved, can, under the right circumstances and conditions, albeit short term, replicate at least partially the level of a Chalabhinna, an Arhat of the third level of realization with the ability of Iddhavidha, the power of transformation.(see)

It is written as well that the herbs used to awaken this potentiality should be obtained and administered ONLY through the Guru and NOT without a Guru. The reason for such is because there are certain herbs that awaken only Ida and there are others that awaken only Pingala; and there are those that can and do suppress either or both. Aushadhi or the herbal Awakening can be a very quick, albeit risky and unreliable method. It should be done only with one who is a very reliable person, who knows the science of it's use thoroughly, and versed in the arts thereof.

What kind of factors if I may ask?.
Most of the experiencies I've read in internet (Obviously I am not sure if those experiences were real) are bad experiences of people getting insane and things like that.

Thank you.

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